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What worldview does liking cyber/ industrial actually mean?

I think it's important to come to some consensus on what it actually means to associate with cyber/ industrial culture. People inevitably ask why you dress in all black or obsess about technology so what do you say? I do not associate with this culture just to justify a dress style, it's arguably a worldview or lifestyle but about what exactly?

In my opinion some values/ attributes are:
- DIY/ self-reliance mindset (accept no one in this world can help you except yourself)
- distrust of large organizations (corporations, governments and religions)
- knowledge of technology (programming, general information technology and digital media production)
- darker fashion sense (wearing black, boots, camo, neon or anything that obscures or contrasts you from the rest of the world)
- being sort of healthy (dance, run, hike, etc. while so much of the world sits and watches TV)
- self-experimentation/ improvement (bio-hacking, drugs, use of productivity tools and methods to increase time efficiency)
- respect for others of the same mindset (acknowledge and gravitate towards people who do things differently)

What are your personal impressions of what worldview cyber/ industrial is about?

Posted By: admin admin
3 months ago 2017-06-11  

3 months ago

I think your list is really good...

I think the self-reliance mindset also results in the feeling that only few can understand you (not only help).

And I dislike the word "darker" fashion sense, because neon (and most of cyber) isn't dark at all. Many people do express themself dark but I'd simply speak about alternative fashion sense ^^

Edited   3 months ago

I agree "darker" may not be the best word for fashion, maybe edgy or monochrome but it's not always any of these...

3 months ago

Well that's interesting. You more or less summed up my view on things.

Otherwise I've not given much thought about why I gravitate towards this genre. My short answer would be "cause I think it's cool" but maybe there's an implicit relationship.

Either way, I approve of your list.

3 months ago

Well I think the question is more what worldview and intentions do followers of this scene have in common ;) I don't think it's the reason why we follow it (or at least not all of it)! I don't like to dance or listen special kind of music because I have interest in technology for example ;)

3 months ago

This is very interesting... I think there is like a conglomerate of different influences. Each one provides different points of views. (previous music genres, literature/movies, philosophies, etc)
I would sum it up in some kind of disappointment with the "mainstream" world and doing/expressing something about it. I really like the last point in the list, because I'm also against of discrimination and really like to see people being themselves freely.

As a geek/techie too I leave here this gem too: http://project.cyberpunk.ru...

Edited   3 months ago

Shorter, more relevant revision:
The Cyberpunk Manifesto is a bit dated, but it's still relevant.

I do think one part of the manifesto is very relevant today: "Encrypting of informattion is our weapon." I will ignore the misspelling in their text! This is, in brief, is the idea behind Cypherpunk, which is essentially the idea that we can only stop government surveillance of everything we do (from what we buy to where we are) by using encryption (public/ private key cryptography specifically).

I think Cryptocurrencies are a sign of Cyberpunk mentality catching on.

3 months ago

wow... that was a big post!
I just can add for everyone interested in privacy and staying current about technology to follow the eff.org and to adopt good practices regarding data privacy online (using TOR for some tasks perhaps, I use it myself when I don't want people to track my internet usage)

3 months ago

going back to music... and related to this thread I really like the feelings expressed in this song.

3 months ago

I think it's hard to specify songs that sum everything up but it's worth trying.

I know bands like: FGFC820, Front Line Assembly, Terrorfakt, Feindflug, Funker Vogt, Haujobb, Snog and many others have songs related to the topics of thinking for oneself, high tech worlds, government/ military corruption/ control and so on. There are plenty of bands that also just focus on their own life experiences and say nothing politically or really philosophically. In either case, they seem relevant somehow.

12 days ago

Hating populatiy. I do have that worldview while I'm not sure if it is mentioned here. Mainly that some teenagers are pooularity slaves and would just sacrifice anything to become popular. Or lose common sense to be popular.
Also showing I don't belong to them.

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